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11:10 pm - Sad: An Incredibly Elaborate Mac Laptop Scam
After over a month of being trapped on our "emergency backup laptop," an older 667MHz TiBook, I finally managed to buy a replacement laptop. I just wish it would get here already! {bounce bounce}

As some of you know, my 1GHz 17" PowerBook's screen was damaged just after Christmas. I found an equivalent laptop on eBay with a dead logic board but a good screen; and tried to transplant my laptop's logic board late last month. The replacement machine's logic board came out of the case as expected. What makes it a bit dicey is that there are three chips that get extremely warm (the processor itself, the video chip, and one other big chip), so those three chips have 'heat sinks' attached to them. A heat sink is basically a chunk of metal that helps carry heat away from the chip. Often there's a fan to blow air across the heat sink to help keep it even cooler. However, a heat sink doesn't work very well if the chip itself doesn't make very good contact with the metal. In order to get as much heat as possible from the chip to the heat sink, "heat sink grease" is applied; a somewhat gummy substance that conducts heat well.

So the instructions for removing the logic board include lifting carefully in order to give the grease time to release the chips schllluuuuuuuuupop! Unfortunately, Apple apparently got a batch of heat sink grease that had been manufacturered by the makers of KrazyGlue. When I carefully pried up my laptop's logic board, the first two chips popped loose on cue, but the third one didn't let go until I'd carefully put quite a bit more pressure on it. In fact, so much pressure that when it finally popped loose, it was because that heat sink grease had ripped the video ship right off the logic board!

Naturally, it's the dead logic board that came out perfectly, and the (formerly) operable board that was destroyed. Sigh.

Well, I'd been planning to upgrade my laptop anyway, since the 1GHz PowerBook didn't have a fancy enough video chip to drive my birthday present at full resolution. (Said present being a beautiful 30" Apple Cinema HD display wider than most of our doorways! OK, that's not quite true. Our house has 2.5' doorways, so there's 29" from one side to the other, and the Cinema HD display is 27" wide side to side (30" refers to the diagonal measure of the screen), but it's still absolutely gigantic.) So, while my laptop's hard drive hangs out in this TiBook, which doesn't even have a DVI output (so I can't connect the giant screen to it at all), I've been shopping for a new laptop.

The options turned out to be a bit narrower than I expected. Any MacBook Pro, which is to say, any Apple laptop recent enough to have an Intel chip in it, would be able to drive the Cinema HD display. Well, that's not exactly correct. Before the Intel chips, the laptops were "iBooks" and "PowerBooks," and afterwards, they were "MacBooks" and "MacBook Pros." The fancier line has always been the one with the more sophisticated video. For example, if you hook an external monitor to an iBook, it "mirrors" the LCD display: both monitors show you the same thing. With a PowerBook, you can either mirror OR you can have the monitor show a separate picture. I love that, because in effect it doubles the size of the screen; you can put your word processor on the LCD screen, for example, and have all your browser windows with research you're writing about open on the other one.

So anyway, all the MacBook Pros can drive the Cinema HD display. None of the MacBooks can.

Worse, one of the reasons Eric (and all my lovely friends who pooled their funds to help purchase the Cinema HD, thank you thank you) got me this as a present in the first place is because I use all the screen real estate I can get. When I start researching something, I'll frequently have six or seven browser windows open, most of them with multiple tabs, and maybe an Excel spreadsheet or a text editor window for keeping notes. When the TiBook first came out, I drooled. When they upped the screen resolution from 1152 x 768 to 1280 x 854, that's when I got one. And when it came time to upgrade, the jumbo-sized 17" screens were the ones for me. But even an older 17" MacBook Pro is not cheap, and new ones are $3000+. Yikes. I could probably live with a 15"-er, but it wouldn't be as good.

The other fly in the ointment is the new "Mag-Safe" power connector. Now, I think the Mag-Safe connector is a really smart innovation. I've got a fair number of laptops or power supplies around the house with loose or broken power connectors because the laptop slid off something, or somebody hooked the cord with their foot, or whatever. So it's a good thing, in general. But I also have managed to collect at least ten of the older pin-in-a-collar power supplies, and I love being able to carry the laptop around the house without having to unplug and carry the power cable, too. There's one at my desk, one by the bed, one in my computer bag, one by the bathtub, one near the server rack, one at my workplace in Redmond, and a couple spares in the box. If I stick with the older PowerBook, then I can still use all my power supplies, and my two spare 17" PowerBook laptop batteries.

The older 17" PowerBook came in a fair number of variants. I'd been perfectly happy with my 1GHz model, until the Cinema HD revealed its hidden weakness. The 1.33GHz and 1.5GHz versions also didn't have the video muscle to let the HD realize its potential. The last speed released as a PowerBook was 1.67GHz, just before the big changeover to MacBooks. But even the 1.67PB couldn't drive the HD. Well, not at first. You see, there were two different 17" 1.67GHz PowerBooks. The later one has become known as the "hi-res" version, because the most obvious difference was, instead of having a screen resolution of 1440 x 900, this one jumped to 1680 x 1050. Wow! It also got a hard drive upgrade, from 80G or 100G at 5400RPM to 100G at 7200RPM or 120G at 5400RPM, and the DVD drive, although still an 8x drive, now could burn dual-layer DVD discs.

And if you plugged a Cinema HD display into this one, you would get the full 2560x1600.

The "hi-res" version was apparently available for only a brief period of time, since, once I started looking, I found that 80% or more of the 1.67GHz machines available were the older version. Worse, in 2 out of 3 cases, there was no way to tell which one it was. I sent a lot of messages to eBay sellers asking "What model?" (Especially exasperating was the fact that most 17" PBs have a 100G hard drive; the size that both versions have in common. People almost always include the size of the hard drive in their ad. They almost never include the </i>speed</i>. Argh!)

I also created a script for searching Craig's List. Once an hour, it does a search for Mac laptops (with the "hi-res" PB so rare, I was willing to get a 15" MacBook Pro if the price was right), and if it finds any new ads, it opens a page on my screen with the ad. In the past three weeks, there's been two MacBook Pros, one which seemed just a bit too expensive. The other one was extremely reasonable. I called less than 30 minutes after the ad was posted. I was too late.

Actually, there were three MacBook Pros offered for sale. The real jaw-dropper was a 2.4GHz 17" Pro with an asking price of $1200!!! Wow! I first saw this about three hours after it went up; I sent off a "By any chance, is this still available?" query with no real hope of a positive answer. But, miracle of miracles, it was!

Oddly, the seller told me that they were currently in London. Was the laptop still in Seattle? No, it was also in London. Although "Terri" never told me why a Londoner had posted an ad on the Seattle list, eventually the answer became pretty clear.

On top of the odd location, the subject line of Terri's response was "MacBook Pro, 17", 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD - $1000‏" The price had inexplicably dropped another $200. I know that Macintosh laptops are the #1 item offered by scammers on eBay (they offer a laptop for sale, cancel the auction before it's over, then contact you directly and offer it for less than you would have paid for it. Then they require that you pay for it with a Western Union moneygram, take the money, and disappear, leaving you with no possible way to get a refund.) So when a laptop that was already around $1000 below normal street price gets even cheaper, I get suspicious. I told Eric at this point "I'm beginning to suspect this is a scammer. I'll bet they want to me to pay them with a 100% non-recoverable Western Union Money Transfer. I'm going to require we use an escrow service for this, to make sure I get a laptop before they get any money."

So the next message I got from "Terri" was actually a pleasant surprise. They sent me a link to a page on DHL's web site that described a special program where a seller would give a package like the laptop to DHL, I would pay DHL's designated agent who would hold the funds in escrow, DHL would deliver the package, then I'd have five days to return the package to them if it wasn't what I'd expected before they'd release the funds to the seller. At first, my budding concerns were stilled. Well, mostly.

While I was waiting for "Terri" to send me the message confirming that she'd given the box to DHL, I went to DHL's US site to find out more about this escrow program they had. I couldn't find anything that sounded even close. Their web site is rather complex, since they offer different kinds of services, so I wasn't totally certain I hadn't simply missed it. It also might have only been offered in Europe, although I tried looking around DHL's UK site as well, and still couldn't find it.

So I called DHL. The agent I talked to had never heard of anything like what I described, although she couldn't say categorically that there wasn't such a thing in Europe. She gave me a different number to call to get an international specialist. Before I called that number, I did a bit more research on line, and watched the scam unravel before my eyes.

I'd gotten this very official-looking email from "DHL Customer Service <customerservice@global-dhl.com>" which told me that they'd gotten a package from Terri Hewitt, 31 Nevern Square in London, that contained a 17" Mac PowerBook blah blah blah. It had DHL logos and all that jazz in it. But, taking advantage of my computer-savvy nature, I found that the Official Owner of "global-dhl.com" was "Fiona Malone, 1941 Wilmette Avenue, Wilmette, IL" and the technical contact of record was one "Microsoft Office Live, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA" Wouldn't DHL use their corporate address?

Why, yes, they would. The owner of "dhl.com" itself was "Deutsche Post AG, Charles-de-Gaulle-Strasse 20, Bonn, DE", and the tech contact was "Technical Administrator, DHL, 8701 East Hartford Drive, Scottsdale AZ 85255" Further, "dhl.com" was first registered in May of 1989, but "global-dhl.com" was first registered December 2007.

Oh, reaalllllly. Hmmmmmmm.

Further, the website that she'd first sent me to had also sounded very plausible. The link LOOKED like
http://dhl.co.uk/globalfreight/publish/gb/en/eshipping/webship.high.html
but when clicked on, it ACTUALLY went to
http://globalfreight-dhl.co.uk/publish/gb/en/details/eshipping/webship.high.html

"DHL.co.uk" would be, in fact, exactly what I'd expect for DHL in Britain. ".co.uk" is the same as ".com", but for a British company. In fact, because DHL did a somewhat incompetent job of setting up their servers, you need to include the www or it won't work. But www.dhl.co.uk is, in fact, DHL's UK web site. However, "globalfreight-dhl" is not the same as "dhl". As a matter of fact, until I wrote this, I hadn't even noticed that "Terri" had spoofed the web site. I'd always been working off the link as it appeared in my browser, which was the globalfreight-dhl version.

Again, as with the first example, while "dhl.co.uk" belongs to "DHL World -Wide Express UK, The Bunker Secure Hosting Ltd, Ash Radar Station, Marshbourgh Road, Sandwich, Kent, CT13 0PL, GB", first registered 13-Jan-1997, the registration for "globalfreight-dhl.co.uk" says it's owned by "Jadidian" a "Non-UK Individual" with an address of "104-40 Queens Blvd., forest hill, NY, 11375, US" and was first registered January 9, 2008.

Oh, and "Terri's" home address? That's actually a London hotel.

The second message from "DHL Customer Service" told me I'd need to pay for it with [wait for it] . . . a Western Union Money Transfer! to "First Name: Linda Last Name: Moore Address: 17 Ponton Road City: Vauxhall, London Zip(City Code): SW8 5BA Country: United Kingdom" I was unable to confirm the existence of that address, although I did find Ponton Road. It's probably real, but I'll bet it's short-term-rental office space or maybe a condominium or apartment building. Also, the email warned me "Important Note: The Payment must be made at one of Western Union's Agent Locations, in person by the Buyer. The payment must not be made using Western Union's Send Money Online Service due to the high Credit Card fraud risk. We will not confirm any payments made online or by phone."

"...high fraud risk..." Indeed.

Although I did find the time to have a nice chat with somebody in DHL's IT department to confirm that they had not, in fact, registered those other domains, I have nonetheless somehow become far too busy to get down to a Western Union office and wire that money to London, despite "Terri's" kind reminders. Whether DHL attempts to deal with these hoodlums who are committing fraud with their trademarks or not, I don't know. It's their problem now.

By the way, it's exactly this kind of research that leads me to open a couple dozen browser windows (and a command line/Terminal window, in this case, for typing "whois global-dhl.com" and the like). I must admit, these criminals had put some effort into creating their bogus web site with all the graphics and even a few clickable links and forms and such. I wonder how many people actually fell for it?
Current Mood: pissed offpissed off

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From:bedii
Date:February 25th, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
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My compliments in dodging this version of The Death Of A Thousand Cuts--if my old Computer Forensics prof was available (he's doing some private sector consulting and I don't have the non-college address available right now) I'd pass it along because he'd love to add it to his course notes. I'll try to let hank know because he'd love to hear you dodged the bullet.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 4th, 2008 11:23 am (UTC)
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Ponton Road City, London SW8 5BA is actually a DHL delivery/collection depot. So looks like they were trying to give you a feasible 'office' location too.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 17th, 2008 07:41 pm (UTC)

Craig's List

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Careful we just ran across this scam, they are now advertising on Craig's List
From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 31st, 2008 02:19 am (UTC)

Re: Craig's List

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Thanks for the post man, they almost got me for $640. Different name but they used some of the exact phrases you posted word for word. Sorry they got you but thanks for putting this blog up.
From:cdoublew
Date:April 23rd, 2008 12:58 am (UTC)

Hit

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I'm now dealing with DHL's fraud department over this. A simple google search would have led me here before it was too late but alas, I've been scammed.

Is there really no way to get the money back sent through Western Union? I really cannot afford this if it's all for nothing..thanks for trying to get the message out there though.
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From:snarke
Date:April 23rd, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Hit

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Oh, crap. I'm really sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, the reason scammers like this use Western Union's money transfer system in the first place is because it's functionally the same as cash. It's just like meeting somebody on a street corner and handing over a bunch of $100 bills. There's no account to recover the money from. I think the fact that Western Union allows themselves to be used like this is really shameful; I guess they just love collecting all those fees. Anyway, I'm sure they've well covered with indemnity clauses so nobody can ever blame them for losing money. DHL, of course, had nothing to do with it, so they're not responsible for getting your money back either.

If you happen to check back and don't mind answering, I'd love to know what happened after you sent the money. Did they tell you it was being shipped and give you a fake tracking number and stuff, or did they just vanish away the instant they were paid? Did the web site stay up at all? Are they still using the same web site addresses that I saw? [Checks] No, apparently not; both domains used on me no longer have valid DNS records.

Also, have you reported the fraud to the police, or the FBI? If not, you should. In my version, one of the domains (purportedly) belonged to "Fiona Malone, 1941 Wilmette Avenue, Wilmette, IL". There is a "Patrick Malone" at that address (and, I might add, I'm very surprised to see that!) They might be completely unaware of the scam, but it's more likely that they're involved, since somebody had to use a real credit card to buy the domain in the first place. Unfortunately, the other domain is listed as belonging to "Jadidian, 104-40 Queens Blvd., Forest Hill, NY, 11375," and I didn't turn up any Jadidians in Forest Hill.

Anyway, good luck.

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From:tinylittleboy
Date:May 8th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
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I've been in talks with a man named "warren duggan" about a mac laptop which was originally posted on the Craigslist Boston location. The deal itself was one i was suspicious of right off the bat ($650 for a Mac Book Pro 15"/Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz/2GB/120GB/Superdrive) - i only had plans to purchase it and resell it for what it should be going for, at least $2000. On a hunch i actually responded to the posting with 2 different email accounts to see if the response was specific to the questions asked in each. At first i only received a response on 1 of my accounts, and While theres no way i'd wire money anywhere for this i was actually encouraged by the DHL service he sent to me, which is of course the one you've written about in your posting... which is http://online-webshipping.co.uk/eshipping/webship.high.html. Shortly after this link was sent to me i received the exact same email to my other account - which addressed none of the questions i had asked. I also found it suspicious that DHL was nowhere in the URL and while it initially appears valid the page itself is pretty poor and is not laid out the way i'd expect and actual DHL (or any International shipping service for that matter) website to look.

I wouldn't have sent the money through this service unless i was physically able to hold the laptop in my hands first but i can imagine there are many people who are right now being duped by this "warren duggan" considering the amount of time put into the scam.

I also wanted to mention that its very likely the "patrick malone" at the address you located was probably a victim of identity theft, there is a great dateline series "To catch an online predator" which you can watch entirely on youtube = http://youtube.com/watch?v=EKCCIZQRg5U. I watched each video in this series about a year ago and it made me MUCH more cautious about how i handle my information, its a very interesting set of clips which really shows just how elaborate these scams actually are.

thanks for posting this, hopefully someone else googles a name or site that is mentioned here and will be alerted to the scam before its too late!

From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 9th, 2008 03:05 pm (UTC)

the same scam

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the same scam ad was posted in criagslitst ottawa
uses name
Warren Duggan
email
warren.duggan28@hotmail.com

http://ottawa.en.craigslist.ca/sys/631434540.html

http://chrisclemons.com/blog/index.php/2008/macbook-pro-scam-on-craigslist/
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From:gnic24
Date:May 31st, 2008 04:16 am (UTC)
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Hey guys, I was also a victim of this fraud and I've been doing some research oh our scammers.

Snarke you mentioned that a Patrick Malone lived at the address for one of the sites but I took that name and did a whitepages search on it to find out that he has a relative, Fiona Malone, who also lives at that address.

Another email I got was from a different domain, freight-dhl.com, so I did some more research. I started out with a whois search to find out that the Domain was Registered to a Joseph H Nguyen at 4782 Grand Masters Way Woodbridge VA, a little more research and I come up with a Robert Nguyen who lives at that address, I wasn't able to find much more on him.

I plan on calling DHL's fraud department soon, I know they can't be held responsible but I'm sure they would be very interested in this since these scammers are giving them a bad name and they are illegally using DHL's copyrighted materials. I'll post back later to explain how it goes
From:(Anonymous)
Date:June 2nd, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)

Same scam on Arkansas craigslist

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Here's the text of the email I received... I've been burned before, so went straight to Googling...

Hello

I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the laptop within 3-4 days.
Obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after.
I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the laptop in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a worldwide delivery company DHL, and they will provide assistance in hadling the payment and delivery of the laptop.
With this procedure you will have the change to test the laptop before I receive my payment.
The procedure is explained on the DHL webpage and please click on the link below to the DHL website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company.

http://www.expressfreight-dhl.co.uk/en_uk/webship.high.html

Let me know

Amy

The first email I received from her stated:
Hello,

The laptop is still available and I hope you are still interested. My name is Amy and I am now in Manchester, U.K.
This machine has been used for professional needs over the past 11 Months, it is in great condition and runs perfectly, and beyond evidence of normal use the laptop is in perfect shape. The warranty is good until June 2010 and it is fully transferable. One more thing, it works on US voltage so you do not need a converter.
I have attached some pics with the laptop to this e-mail so you can see the condition of the laptop.
Please get back to me and let me know if you like the laptop if you're really interested in buying it.

Thanks,
Amy


This was for a black Macbook.

Buyers, beware...
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From:goodybagphony
Date:June 6th, 2008 02:58 am (UTC)

Re: Same scam on Arkansas craigslist

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My boyfriend just received an email that was word-for-word the first email you received from Amy. I kid you not. We live in a small-town in North Carolina so we knew it was too good to be true. Thank you for posting this!
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From:aznpunk989
Date:August 6th, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
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I was unfortunate to find your post on this matter... after having just been scammed by this. Hundreds of dollars out the window for me because I didn't use my best judgment and fell for the unbelievable deal.

So yes - I have been scammed by this person as well using the same global-dhl.com address. And now that I have no money and am officially broke, I have a date with a tall drink and a smoking pistol.

Happy Wednesday, indeed.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:August 11th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC)

Don't take it personnel

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We all learn from your mistakes. As much as we do not want to believe:

If a deal is too good to be true...than it probably isn't!

Don't be too hard on yourself. Take what you learn from this and teach others...

Just my two cents ;-)
From:(Anonymous)
Date:September 1st, 2008 09:46 pm (UTC)

Almost fell for this

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I came across a listing on the Waterloo IA Craigslist by this same "Amy" / Bold Dreamer. I hadn't done any research on the seller or anything like that, and I went through with the deal up to the point where I got the "confirmation" from DHL that they were holding the package, waiting for me to transfer the money. I'd heard of internet scams using Western Union Money Transfer and MoneyGram, so to be safe I ran the domain name of the "DHL" email (freight-dhl.com) through whois. Definitely did not look like the legitimate DHL. After some quick Googling, I stumbled across this page and some others warning of the scam. I figured it would be fine to carry through with the deal with "Amy" until I had to send payment.. I guess my cautiousness paid off in the end; otherwise I would be out $400!
From:(Anonymous)
Date:September 3rd, 2008 03:09 am (UTC)
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this is being posted here in texas aswell

here's one of the links:

http://mcallen.en.craigslist.org/sys/814182418.html

thanks for this post..
this seemed too good to be true..

fa sho..
From:(Anonymous)
Date:September 15th, 2008 11:29 pm (UTC)

Currently in talks with Amy (Bold Dreamer)

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A friend of mine and I did our research well in advance for this scam. We read all sorts of things (Thank you, internet) about this 'Amy'. So, we are going to see what we can do to get her to slip up and spill some more details. So far, I have asked to have a picture with her in it, to prove it is currently in her possession (wink). We have asked to extend the trial period to upwards of 14 days. None of our questions have been answered, all ignored and the same emails you are all posting are all we have received. She currently has an address with a false name that she will be shipping the 'computer' to. I have not done my due diligance of contacting the authorities. I'm not sure what branch of law would help catch her? FBI? Anywho, if she does give up any info, or if I have anything to warn people about I will be back to update.
Remember, if it's to good to be true: Google it.
Cheers'
Danny
From:(Anonymous)
Date:October 6th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)

Same scam in Minnesota

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I just responded to an ad in the Mankato, MN craigslist for a 15" MacBook Pro for $600. Bold Dreamer actually sent me an email with a legit DHL link in it, to get me off guard, I guess. I know it was good because I clicked it and it went to the real DHL site. Only later, after I failed to find any info about an escrow service on the genuine DHL site, did the scammer send me a link that went to airexpress-dhl etc. I thought that was a remarkably clever touch; I suppose they're getting better all the time. I called DSL right off and they gave me the number for WeTip, who asked me to forward them the emails. I suppose there's nothing they can do if the crooks are operating out of the UK.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:October 9th, 2008 08:18 am (UTC)

Yup - I got nailed by this bullshit!

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Wow man. I'm normally be on the ball with these types of scams. I was too busy planning for the arrival of my son, and trying hard to upgrade my fiance and myself with MacBooks so we wouldn't be tied to desktops. I wired 400 bucks to this group of crusty chachbags. The real shame is that I had a feeling - but I didn't Google it. Never again.

I had started to do research (also using my computer savvy) and came up with the same info as you guys.

Karma's a bitch. And she's looking for them.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:November 13th, 2008 09:26 pm (UTC)
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i caught this scammer also. Id like to thank you for publishing this. I was a stepping stone to finding out that this was a buncha crap. here are the emails....
Hello,
>
> The laptop is still available and I hope you are still interested. My name is Amy and I am now in Manchester, U.K.
> This machine is 10 Months old and it has been used for professional needs, it is in great condition and runs perfectly, and beyond evidence of normal use the laptop is in perfect shape. Other than a small area of light scratches on the underside and the normal finger stains that can be removed with a damp rag, this MacBook is MINT!!!
> The AppleCare warranty is good until November 19th, 2008 and it is fully transferable.
> One more thing, the laptop is an US version and it works on US voltage so you do not need a converter.
> I have attached some pics with the laptop to this e-mail so you can see the condition of the laptop.
> Please get back to me and let me know if you like the laptop if you're really interested in buying it.
>
> Thanks,
> Amy


AND another after i replied inquiring about the applecare warranty information and screenshot of working OS.....
Hello

The laptop will come with everything in the pics, case, mouse, disks..
I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the laptop within 3-4 days.
Obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after.
I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the laptop in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a worldwide delivery company DHL, and they will provide assistance in hadling the payment and delivery of the laptop.
With this procedure you will have the change to test the laptop before I receive my payment..
The procedure is explained on the DHL webpage and please click on the link below to the DHL website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company.
http://www.dhl.co.uk/publish/gb/en/services/log_services/air.high.html
Let me know

Amy


***May these poor souls burn in the fire of hell. Help spread the word. Hope no one gets did in by this scam.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:December 4th, 2008 05:16 am (UTC)

Amy is now posting in Farmington, NM but still in the UK

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I clicked the link she sent and it directed me to this site:

http://www.overnight-uk-dhl.com/publish/gb/en_uk/buyerprotection.html

Realized it was a scam in time. She was selling a Macbook for $400 through Craigslist from this posting.

http://farmington.craigslist.org/sys/917150903.html

Son of a Bold Dreamer...
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 5th, 2009 09:20 pm (UTC)

Same Scam Different Alias..

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Here's a copy of an email I got when I inquired about a $650 15" MacBook Pro, 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4 Gb memory, 200 Gb HD.. from a cat named "Miles Teg Fan" <prettygirl1979.28@hotmail.com>...

Hello,

My name is Amanda and I am now in Manchester, United Kingdom.
The laptop is still available and I hope you are still interested.
This Macbook Pro was ordered brand new directly from Apple on March 8, 2008. The laptop works perfectly and it has never had any problems. Included in the $650 price is everything (right down to the original box that FedEx shipped it in) with the order from Apple (manual, cleaning cloth, etc). The laptop has almost 3 years AppleCare coverage until March 2011.
One important thing is that the laptop is a US version so the software is for the US and also it doesn't need a power converter.
I have attached some pics with the laptop to this e-mail so you can see the condition of the laptop, and I hope we can work out a deal.
Just to make sure we are on the same page, I am selling the 15" MacBook Pro, with 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4 Gb memory, 200 Gb HD for $650 USD.
Please get back to me and let me know if you like the laptop and if you are interested in buying it.

Thanks,
Amanda


Sorry Amy, you won't be getting any of my USDs!!

Thank you all for posting comments because when I looked up her email address on Google it found this link.. A lot of these scams seem to have the commonality of having "1979.28" at the end of their email address for some reason.. Hmm.. Thanks again though!
From:(Anonymous)
Date:February 13th, 2009 07:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Same Scam Different Alias..

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We just got that SAME SCAM in Seattle from Miles Teg Fan // Amanda // prettygirl1979.28@hotmail.com

From:heavdog
Date:April 25th, 2009 04:45 pm (UTC)

and they are STILL at it! On Medford, OR's Craigslist...

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So glad I googled this, and so glad I found this thread. "Amanda" is, indeed, still going strong. The original ad appears to have been pulled already, but here are my email responses...from "Amanda MacLeod" this time. Sound familiar?

Hello,

The laptop is still available and I hope you are still interested for $600. My name is Amanda and I am now in Manchester, U.K.
This machine is 13 Months old and it has been used for professional needs, it is in great condition and runs perfectly, and beyond evidence of normal use the laptop is in perfect shape. This MacBook Pro is in MINT condition.
The AppleCare warranty is good until March 23th, 2011 and it is fully transferable.
The laptop has the Leopard 10.5.6 OS, the iLife 09, the MS Office 2008, the Adobe CS3. The software was made for the US so I thought it would add value to the laptop if I sell it in the US.
One more thing, the laptop is an US version and it works on US voltage so you do not need a converter.
I have attached some pics with the laptop to this e-mail so you can see the condition of the laptop.
Please get back to me and let me know if you like the laptop if you're really interested in buying it.

Thanks,
Amanda

Then:

Hello

The laptop will come with everything in the pics, case, mouse, disks.
I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the laptop within 3-4 days.
Obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after.
I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the laptop in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a worldwide delivery company DHL, and they will provide assistance in hadling the payment and delivery of the laptop.
With this procedure you will have the change to test the laptop before I receive my payment.
The procedure is explained on the DHL webpage and please click on the link below to the DHL website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company.
http://www.dhl.co.uk/publish/gb/en/services/log_services/air.high.html
Let me know

Amanda

And finally:

I ment you will get everything in the pics, plus the case and mouse.
I would need your name and address to start the process. Here is the exact link where the procedure is explained:

http://www.globalservice-dhl.com/gb/en_uk/onlineship.html
I will also try to explain everything.
First I go to DHL with the laptop and start the delivery procedure.
After I give them the laptop for you, DHL will send you a notification to let you know the process has been initiated, and that they have the laptop for you and also the complete specifications of the laptop.
Also, in the notification they will send you clear instructions on how to make the payment to DHL, to the DHL agent's name.
After you complete your payment, then you will notify DHL, they will collect the payment and once they have your payment, then they will deliver the laptop to you in 2 days time.
After you receive the laptop you will test them to see if they are as I said.
Once you receive the laptop you will have 5 days to test the laptop and if you are 100% satisfied you will keep it and at this poing notify DHL that you are keeping the computer and that they can send me the money.
In the event that you do not like the laptop you will notify DHL you are not keeping the laptop and at this point the DHL people will come to your address and pick up the machine and give you a full refund of your money.
So it is simple, I would say.
If you agree to these terms, send me your name and address and I will go to DHL with the laptop and start the delivery procedure.
Please let me know soon
Cheers

Amanda

It's amazing to me how elaborate the scams have become, but also that people still get sucked in. I know I almost did...but "almost" is the key word. Whew! Dodged that bullet!
Thanks for saving me $600!

Heather
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 8th, 2009 07:34 am (UTC)

Re: and they are STILL at it! On Medford, OR's Craigslist...

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I just received email from this guy, I search his email address andrew.miller29@hotmail.com,and see those posts above, thanks a lot.

13" Apple MacBook laptop - $400 (portland)

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Reply to: mailto:sale-qptf5-1158671798@craigslist.org?subject=13" Apple MacBook laptop - $400 (portland) [Errors when replying to ads?]
Date: 2009-05-07, 3:36AM PDT



Up for sale is my 13" Apple laptop. It has the 2.2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, the upgraded 2GB of Ram, a 160GB HD and SuperDrive. It comes with the original box, power adapter and power extension adapter. The FULLY TRANSFERABLE warranty from Apple and is good until March 2011, which gives you plenty of time and protection against anything that might go wrong with it (the first year warranty from Apple just passed). I have cleared the Hard Drive so it's all ready to go for a new user. I did leave the following programs on the machine: Photoshop CS3 and Microsoft Office 2008. Cosmetically, the machine is in good shape but shows some signs of wear on the back of the machine. This is totally common on the MacBook line, but I wanted to be honest. Price is FIRM $400.

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